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Muddy Waters
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Jehovah's Witnesses 'ordered destruction' of notes which could have been used during child sexual abuse inquiry
by oppostate inhttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witnesses-ordered-destruction-notes-10848053.
jehovah's witnesses 'ordered destruction' of notes which could have been used during child sexual abuse inquiry.
06:21, 7 feb 2016. by huw silk.
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What Are Your "Senior Moments" Like?
by compound complex indear friends:.
i imagine by now we old timers have adjusted to the fact that we are getting older and, one day, will make our exit.
are your "senior moments" ever a cause for worry to you?
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Muddy Waters
omg, I am glad I am not the only on who does these things -- I am becoming so forgetful sometimes, and my energy depletes so quickly. Having the little grandkiddies over for even a couple hours leaves me so exhausted. Love them like crazy and marvel at their non-stop energy and enthusiastic embracing of life. They are like little human machines, all wound up and I feel like I am winding down....
Lately, one of my fears is: if, for some reason I become demented, I regress back to my JW brain!! That thought scares the heck outta me!
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If all the world were JWs....
by Tornintwo inin my former indoctrinated state, i used to yearn for a time when all the world would be jws.
but hang on minute, let's just think about what the world would be like if everyone was a jw,.
first of all, no higher education, so no medical advances, no scientific research, no modern day medicine, infectious disease rife, no doctors, no engineers, so no modern day comforts.
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There would be no great "worldly" literature, music, or art.
All education would be "theocratic", as defined by the WT society.
There would be no allowing of any personalizing of our work or accomplishments -- it would all be kept anonymous. And any results of our work and accomplishments must all be focused toward Jehovah and his kingdom. The JW world would behave and look like a giant altar to an incredibly egotistical God....
Any dissenters would be promptly executed.
To the making of many books there would be no end....
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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Haha, too funny, Orphan Crow & Vidiot!
I have fallen in love with this analogy, lol, so was hoping to get more responses to this thread (which is to me, an incredibly insightful, apt and amazing comparison, lol) especially after the ridiculous Feb 2016 broadcast and their seeming bias against garlic.
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Do You Remember The First Time You Looked At "Apostate" Material?
by minimus ini was always fascinated by it.
as a kid, i used to go to the local library and secretly read books by so called apostates.
later, i would sneak into christian book stores and quickly buy a book or two.
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Muddy Waters
I remember, many years ago, trembling with dread, and looking over my shoulder for demons, looking at apostate material. However, this stuff did nothing for me, only confirmed that I had the "truth".
Why? What was 'wrong' with that particular apostate literature? This "apostate" stuff was all religious -- like why the trinity was true, or that there was a real place of hellfire for sinners, that we did have a soul that lived on forever (in heaven or hell, a literal hell!) Ugh. It did nothing for me. And when I would flip to the back of the book, to see what truth or religion they would "recommend", it was all the same: confess, repent, give yourself to Jesus, blah blah blah and then find a church of your choice.
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The "good" apostate stuff tells the truth about the organization and its leaders.
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It reveals the shenanigans, the politicking, the grievances, the rivalries, the lies, the corruption, the deviousness, the utter lack of love and harmony driving this manmade religious beast.
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"Apostate" information reveals:
- double standards,
- cover ups,
- alliances with the United Nations,
- non-compliance with child sexual abuse laws --
- court cases and trial transcripts of child sexual abuse cases and other abuse cases, such as rape, domestic violence; and just how much of this is hidden in the files of branch offices
- Bethel stories (lots of accounts on freeminds.com - thank you, Randy!!)
- GB member accounts firsthand ("Crisis of Conscience"! - Thank you, bless you, dear Ray Franz!!),
- other studies ("The Orwellian World of Jehovah's Witnesses"),
- books that highlight other cults and mind control and manipulation ("Combattiing Cult Mind Control")
These are the books and accounts that shake the foundations, that rattle the timbers, that start the quaking and crumbling of the fragile tower.... The tower that "watches" but sees nothing except itself.....
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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Muddy Waters
So how about that... "Jehovah, the God of the WT vampires."
If not for the garlic, I may not have ever made the connection.... Thank you, JW broadcasting.
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Garlic, bread, and vampires....
by Muddy Waters in.... being a little facetious today.... :).
the february 2016 broadcast has got me thinking.
crosses are bad, they make jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most jws.
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Muddy Waters
.... being a little facetious today.... :)
The February 2016 broadcast has got me thinking. And remembering, that once upon a time, in our Kingdom Hall, we were actually counselled from the stage about not offending people when we go in service, for example, by NOT EATING GARLIC or other strong-smelling foods (onions, fish).
Yes, I believe the organization has a definite bias against garlic.
Which led me to think about other things they do. Vampire-like things. Now, forgive me, I do not know much about vampires. But there are vampire "stereotypes" or common lore, so I will stick with those most obvious and well known (at least to me, haha).
So. Here we go...
VAMPIRES.
- They shy away at garlic. They do not like garlic. Garlic is bad. Too much garlic makes Jehovah sad.
- They do not like crosses. Crosses are bad, they make Jehovah sad, they are terrible, evil, frightening things to most JWs.
- They want to take your blood away from you, even if it means your life. You are supposed to bleed to death and die for them.
- They meet after dark (or sundown) for the most important day of their year - Jesus' death, in which he "poured out his blood" in our behalf. And we are supposed to be grateful and thankful for this, yet we have no part in sharing of this blood. They want it all to themselves.
Their flock are like little vampires in training, only they learn to reject blood and give it all to the WT, the master vampire.
- Do vampires not also steal your soul? (the WT teaches that we do not have one).
- And do they also not like looking into mirrors? (Not seeing, admitting, or acknowledging their own mistakes & errors; or because they have no soul (connection to others and to life outside their box...) Their mirror gives no reflection, or feedback of themselves to themselves; they remain clueless, disconnected, apart, yet still suck the soul and life from their (encouraged to be) meek and sheeplike followers.
Spooky! "Spiritual" vampires!
Lots of very interesting comparisons, yes?
I would love to go on with this analogy, but I do not know much more about (mythical) vampires. But I think I got the main comparisons.
What think ye all..?
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Good idea? Bad idea?
by Planetsmashers inmailing packages with garlic bread enclosed to still in family.
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Muddy Waters
Duh! lol, I totally thought I was on a different thread, talking about something else about the bread! Good grief. No wonder my answer sounded so irrelevant. Sorry about that.
Sending garlic bread to your family might send a message IF they actually watch the broadcast or at least hear about it from someone...
.... But what message would it send?
You might know what message you want to send them with the packages of garlic bread, but will they know?
It seems a bit abstract, and subject to (mis)interpretation.... I do like the idea, but the message may need to be explained or even spelled out to them. Like, they could think, "Yes, this garlic bread represents our imperfect self and our relationship with Jehovah and our various degrees of types of sin .... and obviously it is a very deep, spiritual subject... and what do YOU mean by sending us this bread?"
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Good idea? Bad idea?
by Planetsmashers inmailing packages with garlic bread enclosed to still in family.
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Also, to what degree is the garlic sprinkled upon the bread? Is it layers of the stuff or only a slight sprinkle?
What about the freshness of the bread, the purity...?
And what of yeast? So many variables...
Oh well, at least there are only 3 solutions -- being thrown into the garbage, being sliced up, or being eaten. In all 3 examples, the bread is damaged, assaulted or consumed, with no say or choice in the matter.
I have never felt so sorry for bread before....